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		<title>By: jammy</title>
		<link>http://woikr.com/wtf/reliance-broadband-woes/comment-page-1#comment-17594</link>
		<dc:creator>jammy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Jun 2010 22:56:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>gosh i just cant tell u how much pissed i am at reliance setu is right ..i dint ve probs for 9 months and then after that it was a complete nightmare ..cc is a complete crap and they have morons sitting there to play shuttle cork with u ..cc will listen to ur complain without knowith wtf to do then he will pass it on to the bill gates of india thats the reliance technical department ...that fukin moron will ask ur mac and then he will say sorry for the inconvenience with in 24 hours some will come n check and then u r back to square one  these guys r pathetic to the hilt man ...i ve no option i m stuck with these retards i ve taken a static ip n the download n upload is pathetic every 2nd day it will stop to work ...reliance or any other services they r all crap ...there must be a law to prevent us from this kinda behaviour ...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>gosh i just cant tell u how much pissed i am at reliance setu is right ..i dint ve probs for 9 months and then after that it was a complete nightmare ..cc is a complete crap and they have morons sitting there to play shuttle cork with u ..cc will listen to ur complain without knowith wtf to do then he will pass it on to the bill gates of india thats the reliance technical department &#8230;that fukin moron will ask ur mac and then he will say sorry for the inconvenience with in 24 hours some will come n check and then u r back to square one  these guys r pathetic to the hilt man &#8230;i ve no option i m stuck with these retards i ve taken a static ip n the download n upload is pathetic every 2nd day it will stop to work &#8230;reliance or any other services they r all crap &#8230;there must be a law to prevent us from this kinda behaviour &#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Airtel Broadband Switchers (Have you kicked Airtel out of your house yet?) #airtelsucks</title>
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		<dc:creator>Airtel Broadband Switchers (Have you kicked Airtel out of your house yet?) #airtelsucks</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jun 2010 06:50:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...]   argh. reliance broadband. no faith in them. best of luck!    I request everyone to read this: Reliance Broadband woes &#124; woikr Reliance people used to regularly visit my place and used to convince me how their broadband [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...]   argh. reliance broadband. no faith in them. best of luck!    I request everyone to read this: Reliance Broadband woes | woikr Reliance people used to regularly visit my place and used to convince me how their broadband [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Setu</title>
		<link>http://woikr.com/wtf/reliance-broadband-woes/comment-page-1#comment-13011</link>
		<dc:creator>Setu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 May 2010 07:48:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Try contacting their nodal officer for your circle. They usually resolve such disputes faster. You can find your circle nodal officer&#039;s details on their website or on your bill. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Try contacting their nodal officer for your circle. They usually resolve such disputes faster. You can find your circle nodal officer&#8217;s details on their website or on your bill.</p>
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		<title>By: Monik</title>
		<link>http://woikr.com/wtf/reliance-broadband-woes/comment-page-1#comment-13003</link>
		<dc:creator>Monik</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 May 2010 07:03:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi guys,

which bb (wired) connection is best overall now a days.

i had a problem with airtel in sec 44, noida.

the connection speed and technical trouble shooting is o.k but there are billing problems. i think airtel seems to be planning their revenue enhancement by doing all creepy things - i requested for plan change so that few more systems can also use in the same house but that did not materialise so i purchased another new connection and today after 3 months they are still running my earlier connection on the higher plan wherein the speed is that of lower plan. more than 10 emails in 3 months and till date hell no. of cc calls but no rectification in their systems, finally when i issued a termination notice now they are begging to continue.
if anybody else has any dubious experience with airtel kindly join me, i am planning a legal action big time. 
anyway which new connection i should install now - tata or any other.
reply soon.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi guys,</p>
<p>which bb (wired) connection is best overall now a days.</p>
<p>i had a problem with airtel in sec 44, noida.</p>
<p>the connection speed and technical trouble shooting is o.k but there are billing problems. i think airtel seems to be planning their revenue enhancement by doing all creepy things &#8211; i requested for plan change so that few more systems can also use in the same house but that did not materialise so i purchased another new connection and today after 3 months they are still running my earlier connection on the higher plan wherein the speed is that of lower plan. more than 10 emails in 3 months and till date hell no. of cc calls but no rectification in their systems, finally when i issued a termination notice now they are begging to continue.<br />
if anybody else has any dubious experience with airtel kindly join me, i am planning a legal action big time.<br />
anyway which new connection i should install now &#8211; tata or any other.<br />
reply soon.</p>
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		<title>By: Setu</title>
		<link>http://woikr.com/wtf/reliance-broadband-woes/comment-page-1#comment-12013</link>
		<dc:creator>Setu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Apr 2010 05:50:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>They should ideally not ask for your card statement as it contains a lot of confidential information.

Their transaction id should be more than enough for them to track the details.

If they do not help, you should write to their nodal officer. The contact details should be on their website.

My advice - Shift to a different ISP. Use our guide to choose one: http://woikr.com/telecom/broadband-connection-guide-for-indian-customers</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They should ideally not ask for your card statement as it contains a lot of confidential information.</p>
<p>Their transaction id should be more than enough for them to track the details.</p>
<p>If they do not help, you should write to their nodal officer. The contact details should be on their website.</p>
<p>My advice &#8211; Shift to a different ISP. Use our guide to choose one: <a href="http://woikr.com/telecom/broadband-connection-guide-for-indian-customers" rel="nofollow">http://woikr.com/telecom/broadband-connection-guide-for-indian-customers</a></p>
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		<title>By: Bhooshan</title>
		<link>http://woikr.com/wtf/reliance-broadband-woes/comment-page-1#comment-11968</link>
		<dc:creator>Bhooshan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Apr 2010 12:18:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Apart from being morons, these guys are also THIEVES.

I paid my monthly bill by credit card over IVR. Apparently this was a new mode of payment they started.

Although money was debited from my credit card, Reliance Claims they did not receive the money, and wanted proof.

I gave them the Transaction Id, that was generated by Reliance&#039;s own IVR system - but they refused to accept, saying they want my credit card statement sent to them. WTF!!!

When i explained that credit card statements come only end of month, they said they cannot do anything.

The issue is still hanging. 

I CAN&#039;T BELIEVE THEY DO NOT TRUST THEIR OWN TRANSACTION ID!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Apart from being morons, these guys are also THIEVES.</p>
<p>I paid my monthly bill by credit card over IVR. Apparently this was a new mode of payment they started.</p>
<p>Although money was debited from my credit card, Reliance Claims they did not receive the money, and wanted proof.</p>
<p>I gave them the Transaction Id, that was generated by Reliance&#8217;s own IVR system &#8211; but they refused to accept, saying they want my credit card statement sent to them. WTF!!!</p>
<p>When i explained that credit card statements come only end of month, they said they cannot do anything.</p>
<p>The issue is still hanging. </p>
<p>I CAN&#8217;T BELIEVE THEY DO NOT TRUST THEIR OWN TRANSACTION ID!!!</p>
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		<title>By: Vinish</title>
		<link>http://woikr.com/wtf/reliance-broadband-woes/comment-page-1#comment-9586</link>
		<dc:creator>Vinish</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Feb 2010 11:32:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Unfortunately, I saw your post a few days too lost. 

The damage is done. You can know the detailed, nail-by-nail coffin hammering at: http://vinishgrg.wordpress.com/.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Unfortunately, I saw your post a few days too lost. </p>
<p>The damage is done. You can know the detailed, nail-by-nail coffin hammering at: <a href="http://vinishgrg.wordpress.com/" rel="nofollow">http://vinishgrg.wordpress.com/</a>.</p>
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		<title>By: Reliance World: Internet Boradband Connection Services &#171; Vinish Garg</title>
		<link>http://woikr.com/wtf/reliance-broadband-woes/comment-page-1#comment-9585</link>
		<dc:creator>Reliance World: Internet Boradband Connection Services &#171; Vinish Garg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Feb 2010 11:24:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] my systems engineer hammered the final nail in coffin when he shared with me the information at: http://woikr.com/wtf/reliance-broadband-woes.  [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] my systems engineer hammered the final nail in coffin when he shared with me the information at: <a href="http://woikr.com/wtf/reliance-broadband-woes" rel="nofollow">http://woikr.com/wtf/reliance-broadband-woes</a>.  [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Ujwal</title>
		<link>http://woikr.com/wtf/reliance-broadband-woes/comment-page-1#comment-6570</link>
		<dc:creator>Ujwal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Dec 2009 15:56:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the prompt reply. I will try configuring my wifi router as u said. I have used it with airtel before but then I had to configure the modem given by Airtel in bridge mode first and then configure the wifi router. I am unable to access the configuration page of the reliance modem. I will do as u said but I am quite a noob when it comes to cloning the MAC addresses. Please be in touch coz i need ur help. I will get back to you with the results..Thnx...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the prompt reply. I will try configuring my wifi router as u said. I have used it with airtel before but then I had to configure the modem given by Airtel in bridge mode first and then configure the wifi router. I am unable to access the configuration page of the reliance modem. I will do as u said but I am quite a noob when it comes to cloning the MAC addresses. Please be in touch coz i need ur help. I will get back to you with the results..Thnx&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Ujwal</title>
		<link>http://woikr.com/wtf/reliance-broadband-woes/comment-page-1#comment-6569</link>
		<dc:creator>Ujwal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Dec 2009 15:54:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the prompt reply. I will try configuring my wifi router as u said. I have used it with airtel before but then I had to configure the modem given by Airtel in bridge mode first and then configure the wifi router. I am unable to access the configuration page of the reliance modem. I will do as u said but I am quite a noob when it comes to cloning the MAC addresses. Please be in touch coz i need ur help. I will get back to you with the results..Thnx</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the prompt reply. I will try configuring my wifi router as u said. I have used it with airtel before but then I had to configure the modem given by Airtel in bridge mode first and then configure the wifi router. I am unable to access the configuration page of the reliance modem. I will do as u said but I am quite a noob when it comes to cloning the MAC addresses. Please be in touch coz i need ur help. I will get back to you with the results..Thnx</p>
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		<title>By: Sekhar</title>
		<link>http://woikr.com/wtf/reliance-broadband-woes/comment-page-1#comment-6568</link>
		<dc:creator>Sekhar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Dec 2009 15:47:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I didn&#039;t do any configuration as such. I just choose &quot;dynamic IP&quot; type connection under WAN settings. In wireless I choose WPA pre-shared key for security and placed a password.

That was it.
Recently I saw Reliance did something by which my wireless router stopped working. After some trouble I got around that by cloning the MAC address of my laptop to my router. I think they realize if you use a wireless router by getting the MAC address and then stop the connection.

Let me know if this worked for you. First thing to make sure is that your router is getting an IP assigned by reliance.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I didn&#8217;t do any configuration as such. I just choose &#8220;dynamic IP&#8221; type connection under WAN settings. In wireless I choose WPA pre-shared key for security and placed a password.</p>
<p>That was it.<br />
Recently I saw Reliance did something by which my wireless router stopped working. After some trouble I got around that by cloning the MAC address of my laptop to my router. I think they realize if you use a wireless router by getting the MAC address and then stop the connection.</p>
<p>Let me know if this worked for you. First thing to make sure is that your router is getting an IP assigned by reliance.</p>
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		<title>By: Ujwal</title>
		<link>http://woikr.com/wtf/reliance-broadband-woes/comment-page-1#comment-6546</link>
		<dc:creator>Ujwal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Dec 2009 17:32:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Shekar, 
I just hpnd to opt for the Reliance broadnet (LL+ADSL). The speeds are awesome. I would like to take some help from you as to how to configure the Wireless router and make it work since this is a browser based authentication system. I used Airtel previously and found that they are expensive. If only you can help.

Thnx..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Shekar,<br />
I just hpnd to opt for the Reliance broadnet (LL+ADSL). The speeds are awesome. I would like to take some help from you as to how to configure the Wireless router and make it work since this is a browser based authentication system. I used Airtel previously and found that they are expensive. If only you can help.</p>
<p>Thnx..</p>
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		<title>By: syed</title>
		<link>http://woikr.com/wtf/reliance-broadband-woes/comment-page-1#comment-2021</link>
		<dc:creator>syed</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Mar 2009 03:08:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Guys i totally agree with you about Reliance Broadband. I am totally stuck in this Reliance black hole. their service sucks and upon calling customer care i just get complaint number nothing else.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Guys i totally agree with you about Reliance Broadband. I am totally stuck in this Reliance black hole. their service sucks and upon calling customer care i just get complaint number nothing else.</p>
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		<title>By: Sekhar</title>
		<link>http://woikr.com/wtf/reliance-broadband-woes/comment-page-1#comment-1614</link>
		<dc:creator>Sekhar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Feb 2009 09:57:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am also from Noida, Sector 62 and had similar problems with Reliance Broadnet (landline and ADSL broadband). First I was told that it would be installed in 4 days flat but that eventually took 8 days. Reason???....here are all the stories I was told over the last 4 days a) They could not find a port for me in their IDC, maybe they are talking about the DSLAM b) When they eventually found a port it was given to someone else.c) They gave my number to someone else d) The installation guy lost my mobile number and hence lost the way to my place etc. etc.....

Note that while signing up the sales chap told me that the Rs 500 installation fee cheque would not be sent for clearance till the line was activated. Voila! It was cleared in 2 days flat....that was the only superfast thing!

Well after 8 days I got a phone and a really cheap looking Chinese looking modem which I hear burns out (even catches fire) in a month.

Only good thing is the speed is awesome. I have configured my wireless router and it was really easy. There are some disconnections, but nothing that I can&#039;t live without. 

Note that I had first Airtel but they failed to even to locate my wiring inside the apartment!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am also from Noida, Sector 62 and had similar problems with Reliance Broadnet (landline and ADSL broadband). First I was told that it would be installed in 4 days flat but that eventually took 8 days. Reason???&#8230;.here are all the stories I was told over the last 4 days a) They could not find a port for me in their IDC, maybe they are talking about the DSLAM b) When they eventually found a port it was given to someone else.c) They gave my number to someone else d) The installation guy lost my mobile number and hence lost the way to my place etc. etc&#8230;..</p>
<p>Note that while signing up the sales chap told me that the Rs 500 installation fee cheque would not be sent for clearance till the line was activated. Voila! It was cleared in 2 days flat&#8230;.that was the only superfast thing!</p>
<p>Well after 8 days I got a phone and a really cheap looking Chinese looking modem which I hear burns out (even catches fire) in a month.</p>
<p>Only good thing is the speed is awesome. I have configured my wireless router and it was really easy. There are some disconnections, but nothing that I can&#8217;t live without. </p>
<p>Note that I had first Airtel but they failed to even to locate my wiring inside the apartment!</p>
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		<title>By: Suresh Kumar</title>
		<link>http://woikr.com/wtf/reliance-broadband-woes/comment-page-1#comment-1419</link>
		<dc:creator>Suresh Kumar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Feb 2009 07:06:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Your chronicled woes about Reliance Wimax (it has to be Wimax, they stopped Broadnet a while back, atleast in Bangalore)is in tune with other peoples&#039;.

I don&#039;t know about your pre-sales/installation support guy, but mine informed me very clearly to get a static IP (for an additional fee, ofcourse). Generation of a static IP for a customer takes atleast a week (even though they tell you it is only 3 days) for Reliance folks AFTER installation of the Wimax antenna (or whatever it is that it is called) which, incidentally, happens a week after your signed application form with the proper documents has been handed over to the sales folks.

In my case, the tech folks at Reliance, Bangalore called me and gave me my static IP, default gateway and DNS addresses and instructions on how to configure them and setup the connection. I configured my Macbook and got connected immediately.

If you can wait 2 weeks (atleast), then using Reliance Wimax is a smooth affair. You don&#039;t even have to login- it&#039;s always on.

Using a Macbook (Intel), I did not face a connection drop for 23 hours of continous use. Download speeds too are at par with the advertised speed of 300Kbps- I get a download speed of 35-40KBps even in the morning.

I don&#039;t have a wireless router for my connection, so I do not know if I would still have to play around with the MAC if I had a static IP. Probably not, considering that the connection does not require a login if you are provided a static IP.

And with Reliance, telephone (fixed &amp; wireless prepaid &amp; postpaid) and Wimax/Broadnet are two different entities. The application process and billing are separate and even the customer login for viewing and paying bills are different as can be seen on www.rcom.co.in So if you were informed that you HAD to take a phone connection to get a broadband connection, then you need to take this up with them even now. 

I&#039;d also almost decided to opt for BSNL because Airtel informed me that the place I wanted a connection was not &quot;feasible&quot; for them. I had read too many bad reviews for my liking about Reliance Broadband, but applying for a BSNL connection takes time, although, it is the most consistent ISP in India as of now. So I opted for Reliance, and the sales personnel advised me about 2 things:
1) Go for a static IP connection
2) Go for an unlimited download plan, as the limited ones, while offering higher speeds had too many billing related issues.

It&#039;s been 4 months now and there hasn&#039;t been any problems.

Most importantly, IAM NOT A RELIANCE EMPLOYEE, FRANCHISEE OR RESELLER &amp; I DO NOT GET ANY DISCOUNTS ON MY BILL. Posting a similar opinion about Reliance Wimax on a different site elicited such responses from some readers and my post was viewed as an advertisement for Reliance&#039;s services. It&#039;s entirely up to people whether they take up this service or not.

If Airtel/BSNL (not necessarily in that order, though) is feasible for your place, go for it. Else you can try TATA Indicom/Reliance (again, not necessarily in that order).

FYI, I have seen and visited folks running a TATA Indicom connection (1Mbps) and even their service seems to be pretty good, considering that static IP is a part of their higher priced plans.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Your chronicled woes about Reliance Wimax (it has to be Wimax, they stopped Broadnet a while back, atleast in Bangalore)is in tune with other peoples&#8217;.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t know about your pre-sales/installation support guy, but mine informed me very clearly to get a static IP (for an additional fee, ofcourse). Generation of a static IP for a customer takes atleast a week (even though they tell you it is only 3 days) for Reliance folks AFTER installation of the Wimax antenna (or whatever it is that it is called) which, incidentally, happens a week after your signed application form with the proper documents has been handed over to the sales folks.</p>
<p>In my case, the tech folks at Reliance, Bangalore called me and gave me my static IP, default gateway and DNS addresses and instructions on how to configure them and setup the connection. I configured my Macbook and got connected immediately.</p>
<p>If you can wait 2 weeks (atleast), then using Reliance Wimax is a smooth affair. You don&#8217;t even have to login- it&#8217;s always on.</p>
<p>Using a Macbook (Intel), I did not face a connection drop for 23 hours of continous use. Download speeds too are at par with the advertised speed of 300Kbps- I get a download speed of 35-40KBps even in the morning.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t have a wireless router for my connection, so I do not know if I would still have to play around with the MAC if I had a static IP. Probably not, considering that the connection does not require a login if you are provided a static IP.</p>
<p>And with Reliance, telephone (fixed &amp; wireless prepaid &amp; postpaid) and Wimax/Broadnet are two different entities. The application process and billing are separate and even the customer login for viewing and paying bills are different as can be seen on <a href="http://www.rcom.co.in" rel="nofollow">http://www.rcom.co.in</a> So if you were informed that you HAD to take a phone connection to get a broadband connection, then you need to take this up with them even now. </p>
<p>I&#8217;d also almost decided to opt for BSNL because Airtel informed me that the place I wanted a connection was not &#8220;feasible&#8221; for them. I had read too many bad reviews for my liking about Reliance Broadband, but applying for a BSNL connection takes time, although, it is the most consistent ISP in India as of now. So I opted for Reliance, and the sales personnel advised me about 2 things:<br />
1) Go for a static IP connection<br />
2) Go for an unlimited download plan, as the limited ones, while offering higher speeds had too many billing related issues.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s been 4 months now and there hasn&#8217;t been any problems.</p>
<p>Most importantly, IAM NOT A RELIANCE EMPLOYEE, FRANCHISEE OR RESELLER &amp; I DO NOT GET ANY DISCOUNTS ON MY BILL. Posting a similar opinion about Reliance Wimax on a different site elicited such responses from some readers and my post was viewed as an advertisement for Reliance&#8217;s services. It&#8217;s entirely up to people whether they take up this service or not.</p>
<p>If Airtel/BSNL (not necessarily in that order, though) is feasible for your place, go for it. Else you can try TATA Indicom/Reliance (again, not necessarily in that order).</p>
<p>FYI, I have seen and visited folks running a TATA Indicom connection (1Mbps) and even their service seems to be pretty good, considering that static IP is a part of their higher priced plans.</p>
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